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xMinxG

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Will add this to the discussion. Still you can't be sure if you lose the car on these last couple of laps to go into the wall or have a crash with someone else. After all (even when applying penalty seconds) it's still gifting a position without finishing the race. It's like a check-point race then, if you go to 90% you're fine, you may lose 15-20 seconds if you DC now, but if you're in a good position you'll still get points. And drivers who aren't gaining a position off of this will complain obviously that this guy didn't even finish the race, but he's still in front of them.
It's unbelievably unfair and the game robs you many many good points potentially, but you're not able to make it fair to everyone by applying such a rule imo.
also to be honest with guys like limitless, connection is a big problem and if they lag out they will be penalised for no fault of their own
 

xMinxG

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See this is what I mean ^^^ If this happens to any of us on Sunday, we legit do not know what the best thing to do is! If we disconnect and join back, we'll have to pit to not disqualified, but if we join back on the last lap then the game disqualifies us..

Yet if we choose not to join back, just like Stoo mentioned, we'll be put down as DSC like @Jack was... So at the moment, we do not know what the best solution is!!

So we need to come to a decision to be sure on what to do when/if it happens!!
I think we need to blame FIA for the mandatory tyre rule. codies is trying to make the game what the FIA and the FOM wants it to be. the damage models broken because 1. its their first time and 2. If you smack into a wall at say 190mph the damage would be on all parts of the car. however because of commercialism they cant. also I think it would crash the game if there was that amount of damage in such a short time (I don't know I don't know thing like this). about the 6mph terminal damage yeah that's a big bug. but we are about 6 months into the game so some bugs might have not been fixed yet but will be soon. finally I have to put it out there that this is the first time the sim damage has been in f1 so there are to be bugs.
 

TheFlyingFinn08

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also to be honest with guys like limitless, connection is a big problem and if they lag out they will be penalised for no fault of their own
This happened to @matt212 last Sunday at Monaco, he disconnected on the last lap when leading by a massive gap.. not sure what the final result was given to him though, its a real shame if the win was taken off him!!
 

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This happened to @matt212 last Sunday at Monaco, he disconnected on the last lap when leading by a massive gap.. not sure what the final result was given to him though, its a real shame if the win was taken off him!!
Yeah i disconnected just going into sector 2 on the final lap, the next car behind was around 12s back, we had both ran the whole race with no crashes or damage of front wings so i doubt either of us were going to crash in the final 2 sectors. I put a message towards the stewards but got no response, i actually sort out the points for the league im in, with everyone that disconnected prior and crashed out before me i still got 10th place but only the top 6 finished on the lead lap, should i be given 7th? Should i be given the win as my ai still took the win by around 6s. The guy in second said he was more than happy for me to be awarded the win. I put myself in the worst scenario as not to look bias giving myself points that others felt they earned, its a shame as at the end of the day i still had the win almost guaranteed, im still looking for the correct answer and what positions to give people but ive edited the table once, more than happy to do it again if i have to, but just want everything cleared up :)
 

Seiyariu

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This happened to @matt212 last Sunday at Monaco, he disconnected on the last lap when leading by a massive gap.. not sure what the final result was given to him though, its a real shame if the win was taken off him!!
Yeah i disconnected just going into sector 2 on the final lap, the next car behind was around 12s back, we had both ran the whole race with no crashes or damage of front wings so i doubt either of us were going to crash in the final 2 sectors. I put a message towards the stewards but got no response, i actually sort out the points for the league im in, with everyone that disconnected prior and crashed out before me i still got 10th place but only the top 6 finished on the lead lap, should i be given 7th? Should i be given the win as my ai still took the win by around 6s. The guy in second said he was more than happy for me to be awarded the win. I put myself in the worst scenario as not to look bias giving myself points that others felt they earned, its a shame as at the end of the day i still had the win almost guaranteed, im still looking for the correct answer and what positions to give people but ive edited the table once, more than happy to do it again if i have to, but just want everything cleared up :)
I think you'll be awarded 7th as cruel as it is because you only completed 38 laps, same as those who were lapped. Sometimes these things happen. You'll need confirmation from a cod/mod etc but I'm pretty sure that is how the rules work this season
 
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I think you'll be awarded 7th as cruel as it is because you only completed 38 laps, same as those who were lapped. Sometimes these things happen. You'll need confirmation from a cod/mod etc but I'm pretty sure that is how the rules work this season
Yeah thats what i was thinking (hoping for the win i wont lie :p ) but yeah 7th was what i was thinking, then i noticed in the thread that someone was telling everyone anyone that disconnects does not get points irrespective, so i didnt just wanna give myself points and make others angry.
But still waiting confirmation :)
 

TheFlyingFinn08

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I think you'll be awarded 7th as cruel as it is because you only completed 38 laps, same as those who were lapped. Sometimes these things happen. You'll need confirmation from a cod/mod etc but I'm pretty sure that is how the rules work this season
I kinda agree with @Seiyariu on this, and i kinda don't.. The problem is that, if you disconnected mid-race, then joined back after missing a lap, you'd be given your actual finishing position (39 laps), whereas if you disconnect on the last lap, and miss that last lap, you're classified as finishing 38 laps. And that makes no sense at all because in both scenarios you missed a lap, so why the heck is it given as different outcomes based on the misfortune of time of disconnection?

So, in my opinion, you should be given the win, and it is completely fair!
 

Seiyariu

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Yeah thats what i was thinking (hoping for the win i wont lie :p ) but yeah 7th was what i was thinking, then i noticed in the thread that someone was telling everyone anyone that disconnects does not get points irrespective, so i didnt just wanna give myself points and make others angry.
But still waiting confirmation :)
@TRL Martin disconnected and his AI finished 8th but wasn't awarded any points. I'm not sure if the distance you completed matters but I think you should certainly finish ahead of those that were lapped.
 
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Ycoms

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Yeah thats what i was thinking (hoping for the win i wont lie :p ) but yeah 7th was what i was thinking, then i noticed in the thread that someone was telling everyone anyone that disconnects does not get points irrespective, so i didnt just wanna give myself points and make others angry.
But still waiting confirmation :)
Don't know who you messaged, but you'll definitely get 7th, you were the first to complete 38 laps so you'll get the place above everyone who didn't finish on the lead lap.
 
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Don't know who you messaged, but you'll definitely get 7th, you were the first to complete 38 laps so you'll get the place above everyone who didn't finish on the lead lap.
I posted it in the stewards @Ycoms but ill update the spreadsheet tonight
 
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Stoo

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Don't know who you messaged, but you'll definitely get 7th, you were the first to complete 38 laps so you'll get the place above everyone who didn't finish on the lead lap.
Surely the game even gave him 7th on the results or are codies not smart enough to implement that?
 

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Surely the game even gave him 7th on the results or are codies not smart enough to implement that?
Felipe massa won our race :')
 

xMinxG

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I think you'll be awarded 7th as cruel as it is because you only completed 38 laps, same as those who were lapped. Sometimes these things happen. You'll need confirmation from a cod/mod etc but I'm pretty sure that is how the rules work this season
if you want to finish first first you must finish. however I think something needs to be done as its not anyone's fault when people disconnect. for people like me I have bulletproof broadband never let me down (only a few hiccups) and it really gives us an advantage. but at least disconnecting doesn't allow limitless dominating like he would
 
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TheFlyingFinn08

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if you want to finish first first you must finish. however I think something needs to be done as its not anyone's fault when people disconnect. for people like me I have bulletproof broadband never let me down (only a few hiccups) and it really gives us an advantage. but at least disconnecting doesn't allow limitless dominating like he would
True, but the game has a glitch where it boots you out the game and says "disconnected from Xbox Live" when you haven't, and you're still in party chat with your mates xD

The glitch is so random, you never know when its gonna happen and its unrelated to your internet connection. @TRL Martin had this in Monaco, last Sunday :/