PC Sakitto v8supercars

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  1. atlasgehirn424

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    Platform + League: v8supercars league, PC
    League Coordinator: @Morvic (I think he is on vacation right now)
    I don´t know who subs for him during his absence, if I´m not wrong it is one of you ? @frankodrose @TicklishPicklewickle (Please tell me if I´m wrong)
    Date: August 9
    Members Involved: @RatRug
    Description: While I was running behind him I mentioned during race 2 that he was outside the white lines quite a few times. I then checked the replay and found out that this indeed was the case pretty frequently throughout the whole race. I counted a total of 21 violations (during a 14 laps-race).
    Because my replay of the first race was broken i couldn´t check if this was the case in race 1 too. So @DaWu did it. He discovered 37 violations during that race and gave me the screenshots of it.

    Evidence:

    Race 1: pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-01-56-98.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-02-44-78.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-03-34-38.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-03-41-98.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-05-21-03.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-05-26-41.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-05-54-43.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-07-05-31.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-07-16-95.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-07-37-25.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-07-44-72.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-08-26-95.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-08-33-16.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-09-29-68.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-09-36-61.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-09-57-73.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-11-40-55.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-12-54-53.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-13-01-58.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-13-35-64.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-13-45-55.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-14-21-81.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-14-40-18.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-14-47-16.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-15-12-31.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-15-18-61.jpg

    Race 2: 20170809224946_1.jpg 20170809225226_1.jpg 20170809225425_1.jpg 20170809225651_1.jpg 20170809225657_1.jpg 20170809225716_1.jpg 20170809230020_1.jpg 20170809230157_1.jpg 20170809230303_1.jpg 20170809230554_1.jpg 20170809231304_1.jpg 20170809231311_1.jpg 20170809231352_1.jpg 20170809231420_1.jpg 20170809231856_1.jpg 20170809232031_1.jpg 20170809232931_1.jpg 20170810111524_1.jpg 20170810111620_1.jpg 20170810111739_1.jpg 20170810113931_1.jpg
    Edit: I can´t upload more than 47 files, so i can´t get all of the screenshots of race 1 in here
     
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  2. atlasgehirn424

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    Here is the rest of the screenshots. They all are from race 1 too: pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-16-08-45.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-16-45-61.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-16-52-35.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-17-17-75.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-17-39-11.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-18-24-35.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-18-45-91.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-19-44-78.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-19-55-01.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-20-16-65.jpg pCARS64 2017-08-10 14-20-36-47.jpg
    And here are some screenshots from the beginneing of each race, to prove that this car indeed is RatRug
    Race 1: Starting from P3
    pCARS64 2017-08-10 22-28-41-98.jpg
    Race 2: Reverse grid - Starting third-last
    20170811110336_1.jpg
    Note: At the reverse grid race, the leader accelerated too quickly on the warm-up-lap and that caused quite a mess at the start. So that´s why Rat Rug and the driver besides him (WarnTyre i believe) aren´t lined up right behind the rest of the field. This screenshot was the best i could get, where it is visible that there are only those two cars behind him.
     
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    TicklishPicklewickle Project CARS Coordinator Staff Member PCARS Coordinator Premium Member

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    Some screenshots are without timestamps which would be nice if you could get them just to confirm that it isn't the same place in the race for all the screenshots without timestamps.
    Also if possible (I know it's a lot of extra work) we would like to have small recordings of the situations rather than screenshots, as screenshots doesn't confirm if the driver let off the throttle or not after the cut.

    Other than that, any thoughts on this @RatRug?
     
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    Alright. Like i explained above, the screenshots from race 1 are made by Dewu, because my replay isn´t working. And only of that race there are a few without time stamp. So i will talk to DeWu, if he could possibly make them with timestamps. I will see what I can do about the videos (once again together with DeWu). I haven´t used UBS or any other professional recording software before, so I will have to take a look firstly.

    I only want to mention that (at least for race 2) I didn´t include screenshots of situations where he obviously had not gained any time such as when he got pushed off the track or when he got a cut track penalty by the game (happened twice if I remember correctly.
     
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    About the recording software, if you have a Geforce card you can use Shadowplay. Literally records with the click of a button, very easy to use.
    If @DaWu can't record a video it is fine. But just for another time it is preferable to have a video rather than screenshots so we can see if the driver actually gained time when he cut the track
     
  6. DaWu

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    Did i got this right @TicklishPicklewickle ...?
    You want 37 videos? :cautious:

    The screensots without timestamps would not proof anything from behind (you cant see if he is ON the line or not).
     
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    Nothing to add.
     
  8. TicklishPicklewickle

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    Well yes and no. I want 37 videos but it's 37 3-5 second videos just to see if @RatRug gained time from the cuts or not. If you can put all those together into 1 video it shouldn't be that bad
     
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    thats a lot of work man... and never saw a enquirie made like that ... :confused:

    well... :brb:
     
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    Well people are also more accustomed to just screenshots. But they normally don't reveal the whole situation. Just that the car was outside track limits :)
     
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    For me the video's not available. Did you make it public in YT? If not then it needs to be public for me to see it :)
     
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    Literally the first 3 clips the person infront of me runs wider then I do. I'm not saying I'm not at fault at all, just interesting to see.
     
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    Although it is too late to make an enquiry now (48 hour rule) you had free hands to make one against the driver in front of you in the clip. But this enquiry is indeed about you so only comments about this case should be posted in here :)
     
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    I know I can, I just don't wish to spend my time doing that
     
  18. DaWu

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    @RatRug thats Grondstra in front of you.
    And yeah he did run wide some corners and cut some.
    Not as often as you did, but yeah he did some too.
     
  19. atlasgehirn424

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    I believe the one who is right in front during the first clips is actually Warn Tyre, because Grondstra was further up the road leading.
     
  20. DaWu

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    @atlasgehirn424 y but clip 2 and 3 is Grondstra (Warn Tyre went to pits in lap 1)
     
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